<html aria-label="message body"><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Dear Tariq,<div><br></div><div>Well, that covered the easy possible problems. From there, I would be inclined to restart the NetLDI process in debug mode (add `-d` to the command line), then look at the NetLDI log file to see if it received a connection request and whether it has any details. Next, I would try `topaz -r` to see if you can connect that way (`set user DataCurator pass swordfish gems gs64stone gemn gemnetobject` followed by `login`). <div><br></div><div>I realize that these suggestions are a bit vague. I’m about to board a plane so can’t same much more now. At this point I should probably leave it to someone with more expertise in Jadeite.</div><div><br></div><div>James<br><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 1, 2025, at 10:46 AM, Tariq Hamid <tariq@hamid.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">Dear James<div><br></div><div>Yes, Jadeite Pharo is running on the same host as Gemstone.<br><br>As requested:<br><div><br></div><div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">% gslist -cvl</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">Status<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>Version<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>Owner <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>Pid <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>Port <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>Started <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>Type <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>Name</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">-------<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>--------- --------- -------- ----- ------------ ------<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>----</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">OK <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>3.7.4.3 <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>tariq<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>977 50377 Nov 26 13:50 Netldi<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>gs64ldi</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">OK <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>3.7.4.3 <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>tariq<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>831 51054 Nov 26 13:44 Stone <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>gs64stone</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">OK <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space" style=""> </span>3.7.4.3 <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space" style=""> </span>tariq<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space" style=""> </span>832 51052 Nov 26 13:44 cache <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space" style=""> </span>gs64stone~e65467ac4c061631</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; font-size: 24px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-weight: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">% tail /etc/services</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-weight: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1"># <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>48130-48555 Unassigned</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-weight: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">com-bardac-dw <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>48556/udp<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span># com-bardac-dw</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-weight: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">com-bardac-dw <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>48556/tcp<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span># com-bardac-dw</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-weight: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1"># <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>Nicholas J Howes <<a href="mailto:nick@ghostwood.org">nick@ghostwood.org</a>></font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-weight: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1"># <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>48557-49150 Unassigned<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-weight: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1"># <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>49151 <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>IANA Reserved</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-weight: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 28px;"><font size="1"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"></span><br></font></div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">
</font></span></p><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">gs64ldi 50377/tcp #GemStone/S 64 Bit 3.7.4.3</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1"><br></font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1"><br></font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font style="" face="arial, sans-serif">Many thanks</font></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-feature-settings: normal; font-width: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font style="" face="arial, sans-serif">Tariq</font></span></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 at 16:52, James Foster <<a href="mailto:Smalltalk@jgfoster.net">Smalltalk@jgfoster.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>What do you get from `gslist -cvl`? Is `gs64ldi` in your `/etc/services` file? Is Jadeite on the same host?<div><br></div><div>James<br id="m_3374696950307064979lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 1, 2025, at 9:41 AM, Tariq Hamid via Glass <<a href="mailto:glass@lists.gemtalksystems.com" target="_blank">glass@lists.gemtalksystems.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Dear Gemstoners<div><br></div><div>My Jadeite does not connect.</div><div><br></div><div>Gemstone is running locally on my MacBook:</div><div><div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">% gslist<span> </span></font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">Status<span> </span>Version<span> </span>Owner <span> </span>Started <span> </span>Type <span> </span>Name</font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">-------<span> </span>--------- --------- ------------ ------<span> </span>----</font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">exists <span> </span>3.7.4.3 <span> </span>tariq <span> </span>Nov 26 13:50 Netldi<span> </span>gs64ldi</font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">exists <span> </span>3.7.4.3 <span> </span>tariq <span> </span>Nov 26 13:44 Stone <span> </span>gs64stone</font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">exists <span> </span>3.7.4.3 <span> </span>tariq <span> </span>Nov 26 13:44 cache <span> </span>gs64stone~e65467ac4c061631</font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1"><br></font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I have unzipped the client libraries:</font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">% pwd</font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">/Users/tariq/gemstone/src/clientLibs/<a href="http://3.7.4.3/64bit" target="_blank">3.7.4.3/64bit</a></font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">% ls</font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">libgbjts320.dylib<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>libgcits-3.7.4.3-64.dylib<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>libssl-3.7.4.3-64.dylib</font></span></div><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">
</font></span></p><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><font size="1">libgcirpc-3.7.4.3-64.dylib<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>libkrb5-3.7.4.3-64.dylib</font></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><br></div><span id="m_3374696950307064979cid:ii_mindj3by0"><image.png></span><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><br></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I click connect:</font></div><span id="m_3374696950307064979cid:ii_mindjsfu1"><image.png></span><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo">error contacting GemService, ssl call to netldi failed, ; Netldi 'gs64ldi' on host 'Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2.local' reports the request 'gemnetobject' failed: <br><br>Any suggestions?</div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><br></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo">Muchas Gracias Amigos</div></div></div></div>
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