<html aria-label="message body"><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Ralph,<div><br></div><div>You are right that the IDE story is a bit opaque. First, while Jade doesn’t have libraries for 3.7.6 (the latest GemStone version), if you select 3.7.4.3 from the drop-down list it should work with a 3.7.6 server (adding new libraries is on my to-do list). So you can continue to use Jade right now.</div><div><br></div><div>Going forward, GemTalk’s official IDE will be a VS Code extension (see <a href="https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=GemTalkSystems.gemstone-ide">https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=GemTalkSystems.gemstone-ide</a>). I’ve sent you an invitation to join our Slack channel devoted to discussions about the tooling ecosystem. (Anyone else is welcome to be part of this as well. Please send me your email and I will send you an invite.) We expect to have documentation, tutorials, videos, etc., but this all takes time and for now the best place to get help is in Slack.</div><div><br></div><div>Steven Baker is spearheading the source code management work (Rowan, etc.) and may be able to share some insights either in a reply here on the GLASS mailing list or in Slack.</div><div><br></div><div>James</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Sep 1, 2026, at 12:46 PM, Ralph Mauersberger via Glass <glass@lists.gemtalksystems.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Hello everyone,<br><br>I have a question about the Community Edition and the recommended way to develop for it from today's perspective. I've lost track of which development environments are available and currently useful.<br><br>Many years ago, I used the Pharo-based GemTools. These have long been deprecated. The Tode Project has also disappeared. For the past few years, I've been using Jade and have been happy with it. Based on the seaside-extent, I was able to develop my projects and use various repositories from the GsDevKit ecosystem, such as Zinc, and store my own source code in Filetree repositories.<br><br>Jade no longer supports the latest product versions. Or is there an easy way for everyone to make Jade compatible with the latest versions?<br><br>My question is: If I want to start a new Gemstone project today, what is the recommended approach? Is the Rowan-extent "ready for prime time"? Which UI should I use? Jadeite? Jadeite for Pharo? Jasper? Are these projects at a usable stage of maturity, or were there any dead ends or abandoned approaches? Anything else? How do I load existing Metacello/Monticello-based projects?<br><br>I would appreciate it if you could provide the community with an updated recommendation and an outlook on the IDE-strategy. Perhaps a blog post, documentation, or a YouTube tutorial on "Getting started today" would also be great.<br><br>If I were to start a new project today, I would use Jade, GemStone 3.7.4.3 (currently latest supported version), and the seaside-extent. But would that be sensible?<br><br>By the way, I work on Windows and Linux/WSL and am a Gemstone-only smalltalker, so I don't follow the "develop in Pharo, deploy in Gemstone" approach.<br><br>Thanks in advance and best regards,<br><br>Ralph<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Glass mailing list<br>Glass@lists.gemtalksystems.com<br>https://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/glass<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>