[Glass] Newbie on GLASS - Hello world fail
Mariano Martinez Peck via Glass
glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com
Mon Sep 21 09:14:50 PDT 2015
Cool!!!
Let me know did you do the zinc thingy to only bind localhost ;) I would
also like to have netldi and Zinc only accepting from localhost!
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Ezequiel Tolnay <etolnay at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good news, I reinstalled the whole thing again from scratch (the latest
> version in the dev branch) and now it is working!
>
> From Hello World to a full featured website will be a steep uphill, but I
> finally have a working environment! Stoked :)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ziggy
>
> On 21 September 2015 at 22:03, Ezequiel Tolnay <etolnay at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mariano,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>
>> I don't know which version of seaside gets installed, 3.1x apparently.
>> After running "./installServer devKit 3.2.8.1" from a copy of the dev
>> branch of the tODE devKit, as per Dale's instructions, I mounted Seaside in
>> tODE, installed, and registered it as follows:
>>
>> - mount @/sys/stone/dirs/gsDevKitHome/projects/seaside31 /home seaside
>> - /home/seaside/install
>> - cd /home/seaside
>> - ./webServer --register=zinc --port=8383
>> - ./webServer --start
>>
>> The stack at the error (continuation from the object log) is the
>> following (the error is in the 15th position):
>>
>> aTDDebugger
>> --------------------
>> 1.
>> WAGemStoneProductionErrorHandler(WAErrorHandler)>>saveExceptionContinuation:
>> @10 line 7
>> 2. WAGemStoneProductionErrorHandler>>handleDefault: @2 line 3
>> 3. WAGemStoneProductionErrorHandler(WAErrorHandler)>>handleError: @2 line
>> 2
>> 4.
>> WAGemStoneProductionErrorHandler(WAErrorHandler)>>handleGemStoneException:
>> @4 line 4
>> 5.
>> WAGemStoneProductionErrorHandler(WAHtmlHaltAndErrorHandler)>>handleException:
>> @2 line 2
>> 6. [] in
>> WAGemStoneProductionErrorHandler(WAExceptionHandler)>>handleExceptionsDuring:
>> @2 line 5
>> 7. WAGemStoneProductionErrorHandler(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 8. [] in
>> WAGemStoneProductionErrorHandler(WAExceptionHandler)>>handleExceptionsDuring:
>> @2 line 8
>> 9. [] in ExecBlock>>on:do: @4 line 49
>> 10. MessageNotUnderstood(AbstractException)>>_executeHandler: @3 line 8
>> 11. MessageNotUnderstood(AbstractException)>>_signalWith: @1 line 1
>> 12. MessageNotUnderstood(AbstractException)>>signal @2 line 47
>> 13. Symbol(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: @9 line 10
>> 14. Symbol(Object)>>_doesNotUnderstand:args:envId:reason: @7 line 12
>> *15. [] in WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation>>createRoot @3 line 3*
>> 16. GRSmallDictionary>>at:ifAbsent: @8 line 8
>> 17. WAGemStoneRequestContext(WARequestContext)>>rootComponentIfAbsent: @3
>> line 3
>> 18. WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation>>createRoot @3 line 3
>> 19. WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation>>basicPerformAction @2 line 3
>> 20. [] in
>> WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(WAActionPhaseContinuation)>>performAction
>> @2 line 2
>> 21. WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(ExecBlock)>>onException:do: @2 line 66
>> 22. WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @5 line 47
>> 23.
>> WAGemStoneProductionErrorHandler(WAExceptionHandler)>>handleExceptionsDuring:
>> @2 line 3
>> 24. [] in ExecBlock(WARenderLoopContinuation)>>withNotificationHandlerDo:
>> @2 line 20
>> 25. ExecBlock>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 26.
>> WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(WARenderLoopContinuation)>>withNotificationHandlerDo:
>> @8 line 21
>> 27.
>> WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(WAActionPhaseContinuation)>>performAction
>> @2 line 2
>> 28.
>> WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(WAActionPhaseContinuation)>>handleFiltered:
>> @2 line 2
>> 29. [] in WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(WARequestHandler)>>handle: @3
>> line 4
>> 30. WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 31. WACurrentRequestContext class(WADynamicVariable class)>>use:during:
>> @2 line 4
>> 32. [] in WAGemStoneRequestContext(WARequestContext)>>push:during: @2
>> line 5
>> 33. WAGemStoneRequestContext(ExecBlock)>>ensure: @2 line 12
>> 34. WAGemStoneRequestContext(WARequestContext)>>push:during: @3 line 6
>> 35. WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(WARequestHandler)>>handle: @2 line 4
>> 36. [] in WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(WASessionContinuation)>>handle:
>> @2 line 5
>> 37. WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 38.
>> WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(WASessionContinuation)>>withUnregisteredHandlerDo:
>> @2 line 3
>> 39. WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation(WASessionContinuation)>>handle: @4
>> line 5
>> 40. WASession>>start @6 line 2
>> 41. [] in WASession>>handleFiltered: @2 line 15
>> 42. WAMergedRequestFields>>at:ifAbsent: @3 line 6
>> 43. WASession>>handleFiltered: @16 line 14
>> 44. [] in WASession(WARequestHandler)>>handle: @3 line 4
>> 45. WASession(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 46. WACurrentRequestContext class(WADynamicVariable class)>>use:during:
>> @2 line 4
>> 47. [] in WAGemStoneRequestContext(WARequestContext)>>push:during: @2
>> line 5
>> 48. WAGemStoneRequestContext(ExecBlock)>>ensure: @2 line 12
>> 49. WAGemStoneRequestContext(WARequestContext)>>push:during: @3 line 6
>> 50. WASession(WARequestHandler)>>handle: @2 line 4
>> 51. WASession>>handle: @10 line 11
>> 52. WAApplication(WARegistry)>>dispatch:to:key: @4 line 6
>> 53. WAApplication(WARegistry)>>handle:registering: @4 line 7
>> 54. WAApplication>>handleDefault: @3 line 2
>> 55. WAApplication(WARegistry)>>handleFiltered: @7 line 6
>> 56. WAApplication>>handleFiltered: @10 line 8
>> 57. WAExceptionFilter(WARequestFilter)>>handleFiltered: @3 line 4
>> 58. [] in WAExceptionFilter>>handleFiltered: @2 line 7
>> 59. WAExceptionFilter(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 60. WACurrentExceptionHandler class(WADynamicVariable class)>>use:during:
>> @2 line 4
>> 61. [] in WAExceptionFilter>>handleFiltered: @2 line 6
>> 62. WAExceptionFilter(ExecBlock)>>onException:do: @2 line 66
>> 63. WAExceptionFilter(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @5 line 47
>> 64.
>> WAGemStoneProductionErrorHandler(WAExceptionHandler)>>handleExceptionsDuring:
>> @2 line 3
>> 65. WAExceptionFilter>>handleFiltered: @5 line 4
>> 66. [] in WAApplication(WARequestHandler)>>handle: @3 line 4
>> 67. WAApplication(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 68. WACurrentRequestContext class(WADynamicVariable class)>>use:during:
>> @2 line 4
>> 69. [] in WAGemStoneRequestContext(WARequestContext)>>push:during: @2
>> line 5
>> 70. WAGemStoneRequestContext(ExecBlock)>>ensure: @2 line 12
>> 71. WAGemStoneRequestContext(WARequestContext)>>push:during: @3 line 6
>> 72. WAApplication(WARequestHandler)>>handle: @2 line 4
>> 73. WADispatcher>>handleFiltered:named: @3 line 5
>> 74. WADispatcher>>handleFiltered: @8 line 6
>> 75. [] in WADispatcher(WARequestHandler)>>handle: @3 line 4
>> 76. WADispatcher(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 77. WACurrentRequestContext class(WADynamicVariable class)>>use:during:
>> @2 line 4
>> 78. [] in WAGemStoneRequestContext(WARequestContext)>>push:during: @2
>> line 5
>> 79. WAGemStoneRequestContext(ExecBlock)>>ensure: @2 line 12
>> 80. WAGemStoneRequestContext(WARequestContext)>>push:during: @3 line 6
>> 81. WADispatcher(WARequestHandler)>>handle: @2 line 4
>> 82. [] in WAGsZincAdaptor(WAServerAdaptor)>>handleRequest: @3 line 4
>> 83. WAGsZincAdaptor(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 84. WAGsZincAdaptor(WAServerAdaptor)>>handleRequest: @2 line 5
>> 85. WAGsZincAdaptor(WAServerAdaptor)>>handle: @2 line 4
>> 86. [] in WAGsZincAdaptor(WAServerAdaptor)>>process: @2 line 6
>> 87. WAGsZincAdaptor(ExecBlock)>>ensure: @2 line 12
>> 88. WAGsZincAdaptor(WAServerAdaptor)>>process: @4 line 7
>> 89. [] in WAGsZincAdaptor>>process: @2 line 6
>> 90. [] in GRGemStonePlatform>>seasideProcessRequestWithRetry:resultBlock:
>> @2 line 12
>> 91. GRGemStonePlatform(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 92. [] in GRGemStonePlatform>>seasideProcessRequestWithRetry:resultBlock:
>> @11 line 13
>> 93. GRGemStonePlatform(ExecBlock)>>ensure: @2 line 12
>> 94. TransientRecursionLock>>critical: @11 line 12
>> 95. GRGemStonePlatform>>seasideProcessRequestWithRetry:resultBlock: @3
>> line 6
>> 96. [] in GRGemStonePlatform>>seasideProcessRequest:adaptor:resultBlock:
>> @2 line 6
>> 97. Array(Collection)>>do: @5 line 10
>> 98. [] in GRGemStonePlatform>>seasideProcessRequest:adaptor:resultBlock:
>> @3 line 5
>> 99. GRGemStonePlatform(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 100. GRGemStonePlatform>>seasideProcessRequest:adaptor:resultBlock: @2
>> line 12
>> 101. WAGsZincAdaptor>>process: @3 line 4
>> 102. ZnSeasideServerAdaptorDelegate>>handleRequest: @3 line 4
>> 103. [] in
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnSingleThreadedServer)>>authenticateAndDelegateRequest:
>> @7 line 12
>> 104.
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnSingleThreadedServer)>>authenticateRequest:do:
>> @4 line 6
>> 105.
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnSingleThreadedServer)>>authenticateAndDelegateRequest:
>> @2 line 8
>> 106. [] in
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnSingleThreadedServer)>>handleRequestProtected:
>> @2 line 5
>> 107. ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 108.
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnSingleThreadedServer)>>handleRequestProtected:
>> @2 line 6
>> 109.
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnSingleThreadedServer)>>handleRequest: @5
>> line 9
>> 110. [] in
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnMultiThreadedServer)>>executeOneRequestResponseOn:
>> @2 line 11
>> 111. ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 112.
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnMultiThreadedServer)>>executeOneRequestResponseOn:
>> @6 line 15
>> 113. [] in
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnMultiThreadedServer)>>executeRequestResponseLoopOn:
>> @2 line 10
>> 114. [] in ZnCurrentServer class(DynamicVariable class)>>value:during: @3
>> line 9
>> 115. ZnCurrentServer class(ExecBlock)>>ensure: @2 line 12
>> 116. ZnCurrentServer class(DynamicVariable class)>>value:during: @6 line
>> 10
>> 117. [] in
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnMultiThreadedServer)>>executeRequestResponseLoopOn:
>> @4 line 9
>> 118. ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 119.
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnMultiThreadedServer)>>executeRequestResponseLoopOn:
>> @4 line 11
>> 120. [] in
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnMultiThreadedServer)>>serveConnectionsOn:
>> @2 line 17
>> 121. ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 122. [] in
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnMultiThreadedServer)>>serveConnectionsOn:
>> @2 line 18
>> 123. ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ExecBlock)>>ensure: @2 line 12
>> 124. [] in
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnMultiThreadedServer)>>serveConnectionsOn:
>> @2 line 20
>> 125. [] in ExecBlock>>ifCurtailed: @2 line 6
>> 126. ExecBlock>>ensure: @2 line 12
>> 127. ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ExecBlock)>>ifCurtailed: @3 line 8
>> 128. [] in
>> ZnManagingMultiThreadedServer(ZnMultiThreadedServer)>>serveConnectionsOn:
>> @2 line 23
>> 129. GsProcess>>_start @7 line 16
>> 130. GsNMethod class>>_gsReturnToC @1 line 1
>>
>> About NetLDI port, I found what the problem is. gs64ldi is the default
>> ldi service name and port, but in devKit the ldi is called devKit_ldi. I
>> added a devKit_ldi to /etc/services and now it works well.
>>
>> According to $GS_HOME/projects/seaside31/install.ston, it looks like it
>> is installing seaside3.1.3.1.
>>
>> I found I don't have a ConfigurationOfSeaside defined. I searched online
>> and found this and run it to test it:
>>
>> Gofer new
>> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
>> package: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside';
>> load.
>>
>>
>> ConfigurationOfSeaside now is there, "ConfigurationOfSeaside project"
>> works well, but "ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion" crashes
>> (name not found: Pier tests):
>> aTDDebugger
>> --------------------
>> 1. UserDefinedError(AbstractException)>>_signalWith: @5 line 25
>> 2. UserDefinedError(AbstractException)>>signal @2 line 47
>> 3. MetacelloMCVersionSpec(Object)>>error: @6 line 7
>> *4. [] in
>> MetacelloMCVersionSpec(MetacelloVersionSpec)>>resolveToLoadableSpec:forLoad:forMap:packages:
>> @3 line 7*
>> 5. [] in
>> MetacelloMCVersionSpec(MetacelloVersionSpec)>>packageNamed:forLoad:forMap:ifAbsent:
>> @33 line 35
>> 6. Dictionary>>at:ifAbsent: @7 line 10
>> 7.
>> MetacelloMCVersionSpec(MetacelloVersionSpec)>>packageNamed:forLoad:forMap:ifAbsent:
>> @2 line 9
>> 8.
>> MetacelloMCVersionSpec(MetacelloVersionSpec)>>resolveToLoadableSpec:forLoad:forMap:packages:
>> @2 line 4
>> 9. [] in
>> MetacelloMCVersionSpec(MetacelloVersionSpec)>>resolveToLoadableSpecs:forLoad:map:
>> @2 line 12
>> 10. [] in ExecBlock1(Set)>>do: @2 line 11
>> 11. [] in ExecBlock2(KeyValueDictionary)>>keysDo: @2 line 7
>> 12. KeyValueDictionary>>keysAndValuesDo: @18 line 15
>> 13. KeyValueDictionary>>keysDo: @2 line 6
>> 14. Set>>do: @3 line 11
>> 15.
>> MetacelloMCVersionSpec(MetacelloVersionSpec)>>resolveToLoadableSpecs:forLoad:map:
>> @13 line 10
>> 16. MetacelloMCVersionSpec(MetacelloVersionSpec)>>resolveToLoadableSpecs:
>> @4 line 12
>> 17. [] in
>> MetacelloMCVersionSpec(MetacelloVersionSpec)>>expandToLoadableSpecNames: @2
>> line 9
>> 18. [] in
>> ExecBlock1(MetacelloPlatform)>>stackCacheFor:cacheClass:at:doing: @13 line
>> 14
>> 19. [] in
>> ExecBlock0(MetacelloPlatform)>>useStackCacheDuring:defaultDictionary: @2
>> line 9
>> 20. ExecBlock0(ExecBlock)>>on:do: @3 line 42
>> 21.
>> MetacelloGemStonePlatform(MetacelloPlatform)>>useStackCacheDuring:defaultDictionary:
>> @9 line 10
>> 22.
>> MetacelloGemStonePlatform(MetacelloPlatform)>>stackCacheFor:cacheClass:at:doing:
>> @2 line 4
>> 23. MetacelloGemStonePlatform(MetacelloPlatform)>>stackCacheFor:at:doing:
>> @2 line 3
>> 24.
>> MetacelloMCVersionSpec(MetacelloVersionSpec)>>expandToLoadableSpecNames: @6
>> line 6
>> 25. MetacelloMCVersionSpec>>computeVersionStatus: @2 line 2
>> 26. MetacelloMCVersion>>computeVersionStatus @3 line 9
>> 27. MetacelloMCVersion(MetacelloVersion)>>versionStatus @3 line 3
>> 28. MetacelloMCVersion(MetacelloVersion)>>printOn: @6 line 5
>> 29. MetacelloMCVersion(Object)>>printString @6 line 14
>> 30.
>> TDWorkspaceClientElementBuilder(TDClientSourceElementBuilder)>>printItMenuAction:selectedText:
>> @5 line 7
>> 31.
>> TDWorkspaceClientElementBuilder(TDWindowBuilder)>>handleMenuActions:listElement:actionArg:
>> @12 line 10
>> 32. [] in
>> TDWorkspaceClientElementBuilder(TDClientSourceElementBuilder)>>menuActionBlock
>> @6 line 8
>> 33.
>> TDWorkspaceClientElementBuilder(ExecBlock)>>value:value:value:value:value:
>> @2 line 11
>> 34. GsNMethod class>>_gsReturnToC @1 line 1
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Ziggy
>>
>> On 21 September 2015 at 00:13, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Ezequiel Tolnay via Glass <
>>> glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all!
>>>>
>>>> I've installed the DevKit [dev branch, thanks Dale for your guidence so
>>>> far] in both my server (Debian Wheezy) and my desktop (OSX), and connect
>>>> via SSH port forwarding. The seaside gem is now working, the "counter"
>>>> examples work well, and I tested introducing a divide by zero error to
>>>> debug via continuation and all went well there. So far so good (with a few
>>>> hiccups that I managed to resolve on the way).
>>>>
>>>> I'm now attempting the same Seaside tutorial that I did a while ago on
>>>> Pharo (boquitas). I'm stuck now in the simplest Hello World. I get an error
>>>> in *WAInitialRenderLoopContinuation>>createRoot*:
>>>>
>>>> *(error 2010), a Symbol does not understand #'new'".*
>>>>
>>>> In the freshly installed devKit, the error raises by doing the
>>>> following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. In tODE workspace:
>>>> - WAComponent subclass: #HelloWorld
>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: ''
>>>> poolDictionaries: '' category: 'GLASS'.
>>>> 2. Browse to HelloWorld in tODE, and add for it a new protocol
>>>> called "test" (without protocols, adding a new method fails, is this a
>>>> bug?).
>>>> 3. Add new method:
>>>> - renderContentOn: html
>>>> html heading: 'Hello world!'.
>>>> 4. Register the class running this in the tODE workspace:
>>>> - WAAdmin register: HelloWorld asApplicationAt: 'hello'.
>>>> 5. Open seaside on the Internet browser (http://localhost:8383),
>>>> "hello" application is there.
>>>> 6. Click on "hello" raises a "does not understand #new" error.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You may want to copy the stack of the error? (CMD+Shift+P from the tODE
>>> debugger will open the stack in a printable way so that you can copy paste)
>>> Also..which version of Seaside did you install?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> A couple more questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. after installing via "./installServer devKit 3.2.8.1" netLDI
>>>> listens in different random ports each time it starts. How do I get it to
>>>> listen on the one in the default gs64ldi port 50377 always instead?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I am not sure if the script startNetldi allows you to do that. But,
>>> what I can tell you for sure is that dealing directly to netldi, DOES allow
>>> you to choose ports. For example, this is how I start netldi in my scripts:
>>>
>>> GEMSTONE_USER -n -P $NETLDI_PORT -p`expr $NETLDI_PORT + 1`:`expr
>>> $NETLDI_PORT + 2` -l $APPLICATION_LOG_DIR/netldi$APPLICATION_NAME.log
>>> netldi$APPLICATION_NAME > $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/netldiStartup.log 2>&1'
>>>
>>> Note the arguments -P and -p .. so you maybe need to have you custom
>>> script to start/stop netldi (based on startNetldi script)
>>> https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/master/bin/startNetldi
>>>
>>> Or you can convince Dale to add some arguments to #startNetldi :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. I managed to get GemStone and netLDI to listen in localhost
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Uhhhh this is a very good idea!!! This is for security reasons right?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. only via the config option "STN_LISTENING_ADDRESSES = "::1";" on
>>>> $GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/devKit/extents/system.conf, but couldn't figure
>>>> out how to configure zinc to listen only on localhost. I modified
>>>> *WAGemStoneRunSeasideGems>>startOn:* to "*self adaptorClass
>>>> startOn: port bindingAddressOn: '127.0.0.1'*", and created *WAServerAdaptor
>>>> class>>startOn:bindingAddressOn:* as a copy of *>>startOn:*, but
>>>> with "*adaptor server bindingAddress: aBindingAddress.*" right
>>>> before "adaptor start". Is there a more appropriate way to do this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Good idea. Which kind of socket address object are you instantiating and
>>> how do you get an instance out of a string like 'localhost'?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. The standard Seaside landing page on this installation goes
>>>> straight to the "browse" page, and does not include several of the examples
>>>> that I remember from the default Seaside installation in Pharo, like the
>>>> ones that use make use of JQuery. Is this expected in Gemstone's version or
>>>> is indicative of a partial/failed install?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This is very likely because you installed a newer Seaside version whose
>>> "ConfigurationOfSeaside" brings different packages by default than what it
>>> used to load default. You should simply install the packages/groups you
>>> want (like jQuery for example) that are not in the default load.
>>>
>>> For example, this is what I load:
>>>
>>> #('Core' 'Zinc-Seaside' 'Javascript' 'JQuery' 'JSON' 'FastCGI' 'Email')
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mariano
>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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