[Glass] Locked by Smalltalkhub and Tonel

[bruno buzzi brassesco]

Dale,

It is a download problem.
It will be much better to have those package for GemStone in github.

If you can transform Tonel format into FileTree i will found some time 
to do some TLC on them and sent the PR to you.

My projects use XML extensively.

regards,
bruno

On 7/10/2020 13:25, Dale Henrichs via Glass wrote:
>
>
> On 10/6/20 1:04 PM, Bruno Buzzi Brassesco via Glass wrote:
>> I have 3 dependencies on Smalltalkhub that are not working.
>
> Do you mean that you are not able to download from Smalltalkhub or 
> that you need to make changes and cannot write to Smalltalkhub ...
>
> If it's the former, you should send a message to the Pharo list and 
> get the problem addressed... There were some stability issues in the 
> last month or so, but AFAICT those have been addressed.
>
> If it's the latter, then we do need to do something.
>
>> All were moved to github but stored in Tonel format:
>> https://github.com/pharo-contributions/XML-XMLParser
>> https://github.com/pharo-contributions/XML-XPath
>> https://github.com/pharo-contributions/XML-XMLWriter
>>
>> Which is the best way to install them on GS ?
>> 1) Wait until GS includes Tonel format ?
>> 2) Fork and install them in Pharo then locally save them as FileTree 
>> (then git push).
>> 3) Try with *http://deprecated.smalltalkhub.com/ 
>> <http://deprecated.smalltalkhub.com/>* (available until november)
>
> I think this is a valid option for loading existing packages for the 
> foreseeable future (READONLY)... My understanding is that the STATIC 
> smalltalkhub site will be maintained for a long time ... I think that 
> November was the original date that was scheduled for the cutover to a 
> purely static site. The problems that I mentioned earlier caused the 
> Pharo folks to switch to the static site ahead of schedule ...
>
> But since this is a read only option we need to create a GemStone fork 
> of the XML projects.
>
> With Rowan I can read tonel and write filetree, so creating and 
> populating the fork is not an issue ...
>
> I am slightly concerned that pharo-contributions projects have been 
> evolving over the last few years without keeping the GemStone port 
> up-to-date (there are still GemStone packages in the projects, 
> however, the GemStone specs have been stripped from the baselines), 
> but with a little bit of TLC, we should be able to be in business ...
>
> As usual, I am pretty busy, but now I'm busy with the upcoming 3.6.0 
> release and I'm on the critical path (at least for the next several 
> weeks), so I don't have the time to provide the necessary TLC to get 
> the projects ported back to GemStone. I do have the time to create 
> forks of the pharo-contributions/XML-* projects, convert tonel to 
> filetree, and set things up to run tests on travis, but beyond that 
> would be pushing things too far for me.
>
> Rowan won't be available in 3.6.0, but it is scheduled to show up in 
> 3.7. There are some features in 3.6.0 that are critical to some of our 
> customers and we had to push the release of Rowan into 3.7.
>
> I mention this because my thoughts are that I would do a direct fork 
> of the pharo-contributions/XML-* projects and convert to filetree in a 
> separate directory structure ... that way over time, there would be a 
> path between the filetree and tonel formats. I would create a topaz 
> solo script that would convert back and forth between filetree and 
> tonel format, so that we can actively keep up-to-date with the 
> pharo-contributions/XML-* projects as well as feed back bugfixes.
>
> Sooo if there are other folks that have the time and interest to work 
> on porting the pharo-contributions/XML-* projects to GemStone, I will 
> go ahead and get the ball rolling.
>
> I took a cursory look at state of the XML projects a couple of weeks 
> ago and it looks like there have been significant changes made since 
> the pharo-contributions projects were forked from smalltalkhub, so I 
> am very curious about the fact that if we base the work on 
> pharo-contributions we'll be leaving some XML users in the dust.
>
> Dale
>
>
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