[Glass] Jadeite not connecting

James Foster Smalltalk at JGFoster.net
Wed Dec 3 10:29:23 PST 2025


Did you see Norm’s comment about how to start NetLDI? The "Incorrect password for user 'tariq' error indicates that NetLDI is rtrying to start a new process (Gem) as a specific user and it doesn’t have that user’s password. What you want to do is start netldi with `-g -a tariq` so that all gems are automatically started as you without a password needed.

James

> On Dec 3, 2025, at 4:25 AM, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the same error on Linux using Gemstone 3.7.5.1 beta:
> 
> $ cat /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log
>  ________________________________________________________________________________
> |              GemStone/S64 Object-Oriented Data Management System               |
> |                    Copyright (C) GemTalk Systems 1986-2025                     |
> |                              All rights reserved.                              |
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> |    PROGRAM: NETLDI, GemStone Network Daemon                                    |
> |    VERSION: 3.7.5, Sat Sep 13 10:48:20 2025 (branch 3.7.5)                     |
> |     COMMIT: 2025-09-12T22:38:32-07:00 8c7200a3ff43af0406ed34c053372f2914ed84ad |
> |  BUILT FOR: x86-64 (Linux)                                                     |
> | RUNNING ON: 8-CPU debian x86_64 (Linux 6.12.57+deb13-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC
> | Debian 6.12.57-1 (2025-11-05))                                                 |
> |  PROCESSOR: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1035G1 CPU @ 1.00GHz (Ice Lake)               |
> |     MEMORY: 15778 MB                                                           |
> | PROCESS ID: 156532    DATE: 12/03/25 12:03:37 GMT  (UTC +0:00)                 |
> |   USER IDS: REAL=tariq (1000) EFFECTIVE=tariq (1000) LOGIN=tariq (1000)        |
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> |   GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL = !#netldi:gs64ldi                                          |
> |________________________________________________________________________________|
> 
>     synthesizing  :: , listening on wildcard
> Using OS translation of service name gs64ldi to port 50377
>     Created listening socket on :: port 50377
> 
> Server socket gs64ldi created
> Summary of netldi parameters:
>    The host name is 'debian'.
>  GEMSTONE is  '/home/tariq/gemstone/3.7.5'.
>  GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '!#netldi:gs64ldi'.
>    Authentication is required only to create processes.
>    Process creation is permitted through user's HOME directory.
>    Created processes belong to client's account.
>    The command line is:
>      /home/tariq/gemstone/3.7.5/sys/netldid -d gs64ldi
>    current directory is /home/tariq
> --- 12/03/25 12:03:37.397 GMT Entering Service Loop
> 
> --- 12/03/25 12:16:10.132 GMT Client 1: Finished reading client request:
>      Client is a rpc application on  localhost
>      '!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
>      Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>     Shutting down SSL connection
> 12/03/25 12:16:10 GMT Authorization Warning:
>     Incorrect password for user 'tariq'.
>     error = 
>  hostpw decryption  failed 
> --- 12/03/25 12:16:10.133 GMT Client 1: Reply to client started:
>     'ERROR  Netldi 'gs64ldi' on host 'debian' reports the request 'gemnetobject' failed: '
> --- 12/03/25 12:16:10.134 GMT Client 1: Disposed. elapsed time = 2ms
> 
> --- 12/03/25 12:17:36.070 GMT Client 2: Finished reading client request:
>      Client is a rpc application on  localhost
>      '!#encrypted:tariq at password!gemnetobject'
>      Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>     Shutting down SSL connection
> 
> <Screenshot_20251203_121957.png>
> 
> 
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 at 18:31, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com <mailto:tariq at hamid.com>> wrote:
>> Dear James
>> 
>> The log file: /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log
>> shows the error:
>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.186 GMT Client 1: Finished reading client request:
>>      Client is a rpc application on  localhost
>>      '!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
>>      Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>>     Shutting down SSL connection
>> 12/01/25 18:23:41 GMT Authorization Warning:
>>     Incorrect password for user 'tariq'.
>>     error = 
>>  hostpw decryption  failed
>> 
>> But I am using the Gemstone user SystemUser or DataCurator with the default password, swordfish
>> I have not supplied my MacBook username, tariq or password.
>> 
>> 
>> Here is more output:
>> 
>> topaz> set user DataCurator pass swordfish gems gs64stone gemn gemnetobject
>> Warning: clearing the previous GemStone password.
>> topaz> login
>> [01/12/2025 18:07:33.259 GMT]
>>   gci login: currSession 1  rpc gem processId 7008 socket 4 
>> successful login
>> topaz 1> printit
>> 1+1
>> %
>> 2
>> 
>> % stopnetldi                        
>> stopnetldi[Info]: GemStone version '3.7.4.3'
>> stopnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gs64ldi' has been stopped.
>> tariq at Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2 64bit % rm /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log  
>> tariq at Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2 64bit % startnetldi -d                    
>> startnetldi[Info]: setting GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL='!#netldi:gs64ldi'
>> startnetldi[Info]: GemStone version '3.7.4.3'
>> startnetldi[Info]: Starting GemStone network server 'gs64ldi'.
>> startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE is: '/Users/tariq/GemStone64Bit3.7.4.3-arm64.Darwin'
>> startnetldi[Info]: Log file is '/opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log'.
>> startnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gs64ldi' has been started, process 7465
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <image.png>
>> 
>> % more /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log
>> Server socket gs64ldi created
>> Summary of netldi parameters:
>>    The host name is 'Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2.local'.
>>  GEMSTONE is  '/Users/tariq/GemStone64Bit3.7.4.3-arm64.Darwin'.
>>  GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '!#netldi:gs64ldi'.
>>    Authentication is required only to create processes.
>>    Process creation is permitted through user's HOME directory.
>>    Created processes belong to client's account.
>>    The command line is:
>>      /Users/tariq/GemStone64Bit3.7.4.3-arm64.Darwin/sys/netldid -d gs64ldi
>>    current directory is /Users/tariq/gemstone/src/clientLibs/3.7.4.3/64bit <http://3.7.4.3/64bit>
>> --- 12/01/25 18:22:35.797 GMT Entering Service Loop
>> 
>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.186 GMT Client 1: Finished reading client request:
>>      Client is a rpc application on  localhost
>>      '!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
>>      Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>>     Shutting down SSL connection
>> 12/01/25 18:23:41 GMT Authorization Warning:
>>     Incorrect password for user 'tariq'.
>>     error = 
>>  hostpw decryption  failed 
>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.188 GMT Client 1: Reply to client started:
>>     'ERROR  Netldi 'gs64ldi' on host 'Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2.local' reports the request 'gemnetobject' failed: '
>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.189 GMT Client 1: Disposed. elapsed time = 3ms
>> 
>> Many thanks !
>> Tariq
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 at 18:06, James Foster <Smalltalk at jgfoster.net <mailto:Smalltalk at jgfoster.net>> wrote:
>>> Dear Tariq,
>>> 
>>> Well, that covered the easy possible problems. From there, I would be inclined to restart the NetLDI process in debug mode (add `-d` to the command line), then look at the NetLDI log file to see if it received a connection request and whether it has any details. Next, I would try `topaz -r` to see if you can connect that way (`set user DataCurator pass swordfish gems gs64stone gemn gemnetobject` followed by `login`). 
>>> 
>>> I realize that these suggestions are a bit vague. I’m about to board a plane so can’t same much more now. At this point I should probably leave it to someone with more expertise in Jadeite.
>>> 
>>> James
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 1, 2025, at 10:46 AM, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com <mailto:tariq at hamid.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear James
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, Jadeite Pharo is running on the same host as Gemstone.
>>>> 
>>>> As requested:
>>>> 
>>>> % gslist -cvl
>>>> Status        Version    Owner       Pid   Port   Started     Type       Name
>>>> -------      --------- --------- -------- ----- ------------ ------      ----
>>>> OK           3.7.4.3   tariq          977 50377 Nov 26 13:50 Netldi      gs64ldi
>>>> OK           3.7.4.3   tariq          831 51054 Nov 26 13:44 Stone       gs64stone
>>>> OK           3.7.4.3   tariq          832 51052 Nov 26 13:44 cache       gs64stone~e65467ac4c061631
>>>> 
>>>> % tail /etc/services
>>>> #               48130-48555 Unassigned
>>>> com-bardac-dw   48556/udp    # com-bardac-dw
>>>> com-bardac-dw   48556/tcp    # com-bardac-dw
>>>> #                           Nicholas J Howes <nick at ghostwood.org <mailto:nick at ghostwood.org>>
>>>> #               48557-49150 Unassigned 
>>>> #               49151       IANA Reserved
>>>> 
>>>> gs64ldi 50377/tcp #GemStone/S 64 Bit 3.7.4.3
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> Tariq
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 at 16:52, James Foster <Smalltalk at jgfoster.net <mailto:Smalltalk at jgfoster.net>> wrote:
>>>>> What do you get from `gslist -cvl`? Is `gs64ldi` in your `/etc/services` file? Is Jadeite on the same host?
>>>>> 
>>>>> James
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2025, at 9:41 AM, Tariq Hamid via Glass <glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com <mailto:glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Gemstoners
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My Jadeite does not connect.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gemstone is running locally on my MacBook:
>>>>>> % gslist 
>>>>>> Status        Version    Owner     Started     Type       Name
>>>>>> -------      --------- --------- ------------ ------      ----
>>>>>> exists       3.7.4.3   tariq     Nov 26 13:50 Netldi      gs64ldi
>>>>>> exists       3.7.4.3   tariq     Nov 26 13:44 Stone       gs64stone
>>>>>> exists       3.7.4.3   tariq     Nov 26 13:44 cache       gs64stone~e65467ac4c061631
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have unzipped the client libraries:
>>>>>> % pwd
>>>>>> /Users/tariq/gemstone/src/clientLibs/3.7.4.3/64bit <http://3.7.4.3/64bit>
>>>>>> % ls
>>>>>> libgbjts320.dylib		libgcits-3.7.4.3-64.dylib	libssl-3.7.4.3-64.dylib
>>>>>> libgcirpc-3.7.4.3-64.dylib	libkrb5-3.7.4.3-64.dylib
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <image.png>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I click connect:
>>>>>> <image.png>
>>>>>> error contacting GemService, ssl call to netldi failed, ; Netldi 'gs64ldi' on host 'Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2.local' reports the request 'gemnetobject' failed: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Muchas Gracias Amigos
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