[Glass] Jadeite not connecting
Tariq Hamid
tariq at hamid.com
Wed Dec 3 15:14:31 PST 2025
Dear James and Norm
That gets me further:
*startstone*
*startnetldi -d -g -a tariq*
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Here is the log:
--- 12/03/25 21:48:38.028 GMT Client 1: Finished reading client request:
Client is a rpc application on localhost
'!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
Shutting down SSL connection
--- 12/03/25 21:48:38.028 GMT Client 1: Successful fork, serviceKind 4 ;
Child's Pid: 13557 command is:
'/home/tariq/gemstone/3.7.5/sys/gemnetobject TCP 5 '
--- 12/03/25 21:48:38.028 GMT Client 1: Disposed. elapsed time = 1ms
--- 12/03/25 22:05:30.439 GMT Client 3: Finished reading client request:
Client is a rpc application on localhost
'!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
Shutting down SSL connection
--- 12/03/25 22:05:30.444 GMT Client 3: Successful fork, serviceKind 4 ;
Child's Pid: 15934 command is:
'/home/tariq/gemstone/3.7.5/sys/gemnetobject TCP 5 '
--- 12/03/25 22:05:30.444 GMT Client 3: Disposed. elapsed time = 6ms
It may have logged in, but the Connect operation freezes Pharo.
But if I debug connect I get a Gemstone browser:
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Any more tips ?
Muchas Gracias Amigos
Tariq
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 at 18:55, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com> wrote:
> Dear Norm
>
> Yes, I saw James’s response to.
>
> I’m not getting mailed directly from the glass mailing list, but I can
> mail to it.
>
> Many thanks indeed
> Tariq
>
> On 3 Dec 2025, at 18:29, James Foster <Smalltalk at jgfoster.net> wrote:
>
> Did you see Norm’s comment about how to start NetLDI? The "Incorrect
> password for user 'tariq' error indicates that NetLDI is rtrying to start
> a new process (Gem) as a specific user and it doesn’t have that user’s
> password. What you want to do is start netldi with `-g -a tariq` so that
> all gems are automatically started as you without a password needed.
>
> James
>
> On Dec 3, 2025, at 4:25 AM, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com> wrote:
>
> I have the same error on Linux using Gemstone 3.7.5.1 beta:
>
> $ cat /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log
>
> ________________________________________________________________________________
> | GemStone/S64 Object-Oriented Data Management System
> |
> | Copyright (C) GemTalk Systems 1986-2025
> |
> | All rights reserved.
> |
>
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | PROGRAM: NETLDI, GemStone Network Daemon
> |
> | VERSION: 3.7.5, Sat Sep 13 10:48:20 2025 (branch 3.7.5)
> |
> | COMMIT: 2025-09-12T22:38:32-07:00
> 8c7200a3ff43af0406ed34c053372f2914ed84ad |
> | BUILT FOR: x86-64 (Linux)
> |
> | RUNNING ON: 8-CPU debian x86_64 (Linux 6.12.57+deb13-amd64 #1 SMP
> PREEMPT_DYNAMIC
> | Debian 6.12.57-1 (2025-11-05))
> |
> | PROCESSOR: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1035G1 CPU @ 1.00GHz (Ice Lake)
> |
> | MEMORY: 15778 MB
> |
> | PROCESS ID: 156532 DATE: 12/03/25 12:03:37 GMT (UTC +0:00)
> |
> | USER IDS: REAL=tariq (1000) EFFECTIVE=tariq (1000) LOGIN=tariq (1000)
> |
>
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL = !#netldi:gs64ldi
> |
>
> |________________________________________________________________________________|
>
> synthesizing :: , listening on wildcard
> Using OS translation of service name gs64ldi to port 50377
> Created listening socket on :: port 50377
>
> Server socket gs64ldi created
> Summary of netldi parameters:
> The host name is 'debian'.
> GEMSTONE is '/home/tariq/gemstone/3.7.5'.
> GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '!#netldi:gs64ldi'.
> Authentication is required only to create processes.
> Process creation is permitted through user's HOME directory.
> Created processes belong to client's account.
> The command line is:
> /home/tariq/gemstone/3.7.5/sys/netldid -d gs64ldi
> current directory is /home/tariq
> --- 12/03/25 12:03:37.397 GMT Entering Service Loop
>
> --- 12/03/25 12:16:10.132 GMT Client 1: Finished reading client request:
> Client is a rpc application on localhost
> '!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
> Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
> Shutting down SSL connection
> 12/03/25 12:16:10 GMT Authorization Warning:
> Incorrect password for user 'tariq'.
> error =
> hostpw decryption failed
> --- 12/03/25 12:16:10.133 GMT Client 1: Reply to client started:
> 'ERROR Netldi 'gs64ldi' on host 'debian' reports the request
> 'gemnetobject' failed: '
> --- 12/03/25 12:16:10.134 GMT Client 1: Disposed. elapsed time = 2ms
>
> --- 12/03/25 12:17:36.070 GMT Client 2: Finished reading client request:
> Client is a rpc application on localhost
> '!#encrypted:tariq at password!gemnetobject'
> Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
> Shutting down SSL connection
>
> <Screenshot_20251203_121957.png>
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 at 18:31, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear James
>>
>> The log file: /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log
>> shows the error:
>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.186 GMT Client 1: Finished reading client request:
>> Client is a rpc application on localhost
>> '!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
>> Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>> Shutting down SSL connection
>> 12/01/25 18:23:41 GMT Authorization Warning:
>> Incorrect password for user 'tariq'.
>> error =
>> hostpw decryption failed
>>
>> But I am using the Gemstone user SystemUser or DataCurator with the
>> default password, swordfish
>> I have not supplied my MacBook username, tariq or password.
>>
>>
>> Here is more output:
>>
>> topaz> set user DataCurator pass swordfish gems gs64stone gemn
>> gemnetobject
>> Warning: clearing the previous GemStone password.
>> topaz> login
>> [01/12/2025 18:07:33.259 GMT]
>> gci login: currSession 1 rpc gem processId 7008 socket 4
>> successful login
>> topaz 1> printit
>> 1+1
>> %
>> 2
>>
>> % stopnetldi
>> stopnetldi[Info]: GemStone version '3.7.4.3'
>> stopnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gs64ldi' has been stopped.
>> tariq at Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2 64bit % rm /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log
>> tariq at Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2 64bit % startnetldi -d
>> startnetldi[Info]: setting GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL='!#netldi:gs64ldi'
>> startnetldi[Info]: GemStone version '3.7.4.3'
>> startnetldi[Info]: Starting GemStone network server 'gs64ldi'.
>> startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE is:
>> '/Users/tariq/GemStone64Bit3.7.4.3-arm64.Darwin'
>> startnetldi[Info]: Log file is '/opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log'.
>>
>> startnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gs64ldi' has been started, process
>> 7465
>>
>>
>>
>> <image.png>
>>
>> % more /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log
>> Server socket gs64ldi created
>> Summary of netldi parameters:
>> The host name is 'Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2.local'.
>> GEMSTONE is '/Users/tariq/GemStone64Bit3.7.4.3-arm64.Darwin'.
>> GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '!#netldi:gs64ldi'.
>> Authentication is required only to create processes.
>> Process creation is permitted through user's HOME directory.
>> Created processes belong to client's account.
>> The command line is:
>> /Users/tariq/GemStone64Bit3.7.4.3-arm64.Darwin/sys/netldid -d
>> gs64ldi
>> current directory is /Users/tariq/gemstone/src/clientLibs/
>> 3.7.4.3/64bit
>> --- 12/01/25 18:22:35.797 GMT Entering Service Loop
>>
>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.186 GMT Client 1: Finished reading client request:
>> Client is a rpc application on localhost
>> '!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
>> Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>> Shutting down SSL connection
>> 12/01/25 18:23:41 GMT Authorization Warning:
>> Incorrect password for user 'tariq'.
>> error =
>> hostpw decryption failed
>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.188 GMT Client 1: Reply to client started:
>> 'ERROR Netldi 'gs64ldi' on host 'Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2.local'
>> reports the request 'gemnetobject' failed: '
>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.189 GMT Client 1: Disposed. elapsed time = 3ms
>>
>> Many thanks !
>> Tariq
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 at 18:06, James Foster <Smalltalk at jgfoster.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Tariq,
>>>
>>> Well, that covered the easy possible problems. From there, I would be
>>> inclined to restart the NetLDI process in debug mode (add `-d` to the
>>> command line), then look at the NetLDI log file to see if it received a
>>> connection request and whether it has any details. Next, I would try `topaz
>>> -r` to see if you can connect that way (`set user DataCurator pass
>>> swordfish gems gs64stone gemn gemnetobject` followed by `login`).
>>>
>>> I realize that these suggestions are a bit vague. I’m about to board a
>>> plane so can’t same much more now. At this point I should probably leave it
>>> to someone with more expertise in Jadeite.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2025, at 10:46 AM, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear James
>>>
>>> Yes, Jadeite Pharo is running on the same host as Gemstone.
>>>
>>> As requested:
>>>
>>> % gslist -cvl
>>> Status Version Owner Pid Port Started Type
>>> Name
>>> ------- --------- --------- -------- ----- ------------ ------
>>> ----
>>> OK 3.7.4.3 tariq 977 50377 Nov 26 13:50 Netldi
>>> gs64ldi
>>> OK 3.7.4.3 tariq 831 51054 Nov 26 13:44 Stone
>>> gs64stone
>>> OK 3.7.4.3 tariq 832 51052 Nov 26 13:44 cache
>>> gs64stone~e65467ac4c061631
>>>
>>> % tail /etc/services
>>> # 48130-48555 Unassigned
>>> com-bardac-dw 48556/udp # com-bardac-dw
>>> com-bardac-dw 48556/tcp # com-bardac-dw
>>> # Nicholas J Howes <nick at ghostwood.org>
>>> # 48557-49150 Unassigned
>>> # 49151 IANA Reserved
>>>
>>> gs64ldi 50377/tcp #GemStone/S 64 Bit 3.7.4.3
>>>
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>> Tariq
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 at 16:52, James Foster <Smalltalk at jgfoster.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What do you get from `gslist -cvl`? Is `gs64ldi` in your
>>>> `/etc/services` file? Is Jadeite on the same host?
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 1, 2025, at 9:41 AM, Tariq Hamid via Glass <
>>>> glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Gemstoners
>>>>
>>>> My Jadeite does not connect.
>>>>
>>>> Gemstone is running locally on my MacBook:
>>>> % gslist
>>>> Status Version Owner Started Type Name
>>>> ------- --------- --------- ------------ ------ ----
>>>> exists 3.7.4.3 tariq Nov 26 13:50 Netldi gs64ldi
>>>> exists 3.7.4.3 tariq Nov 26 13:44 Stone gs64stone
>>>> exists 3.7.4.3 tariq Nov 26 13:44 cache
>>>> gs64stone~e65467ac4c061631
>>>>
>>>> I have unzipped the client libraries:
>>>> % pwd
>>>> /Users/tariq/gemstone/src/clientLibs/3.7.4.3/64bit
>>>> % ls
>>>> libgbjts320.dylib libgcits-3.7.4.3-64.dylib libssl-3.7.4.3-64.dylib
>>>>
>>>> libgcirpc-3.7.4.3-64.dylib libkrb5-3.7.4.3-64.dylib
>>>>
>>>> <image.png>
>>>>
>>>> I click connect:
>>>> <image.png>
>>>> error contacting GemService, ssl call to netldi failed, ; Netldi
>>>> 'gs64ldi' on host 'Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2.local' reports the request
>>>> 'gemnetobject' failed:
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Muchas Gracias Amigos
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
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