[Glass] Jadeite not connecting
James Foster
Smalltalk at JGFoster.net
Wed Dec 3 15:41:30 PST 2025
I’m going to have to defer to those who know the internals of Jadeite. (I use Jade in a Windows VM on macOS.)
James
> On Dec 3, 2025, at 3:22 PM, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com> wrote:
>
> So if I run in debug
> JadeiteGCIConnectionProfile>>setIsRowanAvailableOnCompletion:
> I get the the Jade Gemstone browser !
>
> <image.png>
>
> Is this method missing a sleep or yield?
>
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 at 23:14, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com <mailto:tariq at hamid.com>> wrote:
>> Dear James and Norm
>>
>> That gets me further:
>> startstone
>> startnetldi -d -g -a tariq
>>
>> <image.png>
>> Here is the log:
>> --- 12/03/25 21:48:38.028 GMT Client 1: Finished reading client request:
>> Client is a rpc application on localhost
>> '!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
>> Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>> Shutting down SSL connection
>> --- 12/03/25 21:48:38.028 GMT Client 1: Successful fork, serviceKind 4 ; Child's Pid: 13557 command is:
>> '/home/tariq/gemstone/3.7.5/sys/gemnetobject TCP 5 '
>> --- 12/03/25 21:48:38.028 GMT Client 1: Disposed. elapsed time = 1ms
>>
>> --- 12/03/25 22:05:30.439 GMT Client 3: Finished reading client request:
>> Client is a rpc application on localhost
>> '!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
>> Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>> Shutting down SSL connection
>> --- 12/03/25 22:05:30.444 GMT Client 3: Successful fork, serviceKind 4 ; Child's Pid: 15934 command is:
>> '/home/tariq/gemstone/3.7.5/sys/gemnetobject TCP 5 '
>> --- 12/03/25 22:05:30.444 GMT Client 3: Disposed. elapsed time = 6ms
>>
>> It may have logged in, but the Connect operation freezes Pharo.
>>
>> But if I debug connect I get a Gemstone browser:
>> <image.png>
>>
>>
>> Any more tips ?
>>
>> Muchas Gracias Amigos
>> Tariq
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 at 18:55, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com <mailto:tariq at hamid.com>> wrote:
>>> Dear Norm
>>>
>>> Yes, I saw James’s response to.
>>>
>>> I’m not getting mailed directly from the glass mailing list, but I can mail to it.
>>>
>>> Many thanks indeed
>>> Tariq
>>>
>>>> On 3 Dec 2025, at 18:29, James Foster <Smalltalk at jgfoster.net <mailto:Smalltalk at jgfoster.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Did you see Norm’s comment about how to start NetLDI? The "Incorrect password for user 'tariq' error indicates that NetLDI is rtrying to start a new process (Gem) as a specific user and it doesn’t have that user’s password. What you want to do is start netldi with `-g -a tariq` so that all gems are automatically started as you without a password needed.
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 3, 2025, at 4:25 AM, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com <mailto:tariq at hamid.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the same error on Linux using Gemstone 3.7.5.1 beta:
>>>>>
>>>>> $ cat /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log
>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>> | GemStone/S64 Object-Oriented Data Management System |
>>>>> | Copyright (C) GemTalk Systems 1986-2025 |
>>>>> | All rights reserved. |
>>>>> +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>>> | PROGRAM: NETLDI, GemStone Network Daemon |
>>>>> | VERSION: 3.7.5, Sat Sep 13 10:48:20 2025 (branch 3.7.5) |
>>>>> | COMMIT: 2025-09-12T22:38:32-07:00 8c7200a3ff43af0406ed34c053372f2914ed84ad |
>>>>> | BUILT FOR: x86-64 (Linux) |
>>>>> | RUNNING ON: 8-CPU debian x86_64 (Linux 6.12.57+deb13-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC
>>>>> | Debian 6.12.57-1 (2025-11-05)) |
>>>>> | PROCESSOR: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1035G1 CPU @ 1.00GHz (Ice Lake) |
>>>>> | MEMORY: 15778 MB |
>>>>> | PROCESS ID: 156532 DATE: 12/03/25 12:03:37 GMT (UTC +0:00) |
>>>>> | USER IDS: REAL=tariq (1000) EFFECTIVE=tariq (1000) LOGIN=tariq (1000) |
>>>>> +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>>> | GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL = !#netldi:gs64ldi |
>>>>> |________________________________________________________________________________|
>>>>>
>>>>> synthesizing :: , listening on wildcard
>>>>> Using OS translation of service name gs64ldi to port 50377
>>>>> Created listening socket on :: port 50377
>>>>>
>>>>> Server socket gs64ldi created
>>>>> Summary of netldi parameters:
>>>>> The host name is 'debian'.
>>>>> GEMSTONE is '/home/tariq/gemstone/3.7.5'.
>>>>> GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '!#netldi:gs64ldi'.
>>>>> Authentication is required only to create processes.
>>>>> Process creation is permitted through user's HOME directory.
>>>>> Created processes belong to client's account.
>>>>> The command line is:
>>>>> /home/tariq/gemstone/3.7.5/sys/netldid -d gs64ldi
>>>>> current directory is /home/tariq
>>>>> --- 12/03/25 12:03:37.397 GMT Entering Service Loop
>>>>>
>>>>> --- 12/03/25 12:16:10.132 GMT Client 1: Finished reading client request:
>>>>> Client is a rpc application on localhost
>>>>> '!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
>>>>> Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>>>>> Shutting down SSL connection
>>>>> 12/03/25 12:16:10 GMT Authorization Warning:
>>>>> Incorrect password for user 'tariq'.
>>>>> error =
>>>>> hostpw decryption failed
>>>>> --- 12/03/25 12:16:10.133 GMT Client 1: Reply to client started:
>>>>> 'ERROR Netldi 'gs64ldi' on host 'debian' reports the request 'gemnetobject' failed: '
>>>>> --- 12/03/25 12:16:10.134 GMT Client 1: Disposed. elapsed time = 2ms
>>>>>
>>>>> --- 12/03/25 12:17:36.070 GMT Client 2: Finished reading client request:
>>>>> Client is a rpc application on localhost
>>>>> '!#encrypted:tariq at password!gemnetobject'
>>>>> Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>>>>> Shutting down SSL connection
>>>>>
>>>>> <Screenshot_20251203_121957.png>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 at 18:31, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com <mailto:tariq at hamid.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The log file: /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log
>>>>>> shows the error:
>>>>>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.186 GMT Client 1: Finished reading client request:
>>>>>> Client is a rpc application on localhost
>>>>>> '!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
>>>>>> Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>>>>>> Shutting down SSL connection
>>>>>> 12/01/25 18:23:41 GMT Authorization Warning:
>>>>>> Incorrect password for user 'tariq'.
>>>>>> error =
>>>>>> hostpw decryption failed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I am using the Gemstone user SystemUser or DataCurator with the default password, swordfish
>>>>>> I have not supplied my MacBook username, tariq or password.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is more output:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> topaz> set user DataCurator pass swordfish gems gs64stone gemn gemnetobject
>>>>>> Warning: clearing the previous GemStone password.
>>>>>> topaz> login
>>>>>> [01/12/2025 18:07:33.259 GMT]
>>>>>> gci login: currSession 1 rpc gem processId 7008 socket 4
>>>>>> successful login
>>>>>> topaz 1> printit
>>>>>> 1+1
>>>>>> %
>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> % stopnetldi
>>>>>> stopnetldi[Info]: GemStone version '3.7.4.3'
>>>>>> stopnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gs64ldi' has been stopped.
>>>>>> tariq at Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2 64bit % rm /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log
>>>>>> tariq at Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2 64bit % startnetldi -d
>>>>>> startnetldi[Info]: setting GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL='!#netldi:gs64ldi'
>>>>>> startnetldi[Info]: GemStone version '3.7.4.3'
>>>>>> startnetldi[Info]: Starting GemStone network server 'gs64ldi'.
>>>>>> startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE is: '/Users/tariq/GemStone64Bit3.7.4.3-arm64.Darwin'
>>>>>> startnetldi[Info]: Log file is '/opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log'.
>>>>>> startnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gs64ldi' has been started, process 7465
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <image.png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> % more /opt/gemstone/log/gs64ldi.log
>>>>>> Server socket gs64ldi created
>>>>>> Summary of netldi parameters:
>>>>>> The host name is 'Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2.local'.
>>>>>> GEMSTONE is '/Users/tariq/GemStone64Bit3.7.4.3-arm64.Darwin'.
>>>>>> GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '!#netldi:gs64ldi'.
>>>>>> Authentication is required only to create processes.
>>>>>> Process creation is permitted through user's HOME directory.
>>>>>> Created processes belong to client's account.
>>>>>> The command line is:
>>>>>> /Users/tariq/GemStone64Bit3.7.4.3-arm64.Darwin/sys/netldid -d gs64ldi
>>>>>> current directory is /Users/tariq/gemstone/src/clientLibs/3.7.4.3/64bit <http://3.7.4.3/64bit>
>>>>>> --- 12/01/25 18:22:35.797 GMT Entering Service Loop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.186 GMT Client 1: Finished reading client request:
>>>>>> Client is a rpc application on localhost
>>>>>> '!#encrypted:tariq!gemnetobject'
>>>>>> Status byte to client: ok=1, useKerberos=0.
>>>>>> Shutting down SSL connection
>>>>>> 12/01/25 18:23:41 GMT Authorization Warning:
>>>>>> Incorrect password for user 'tariq'.
>>>>>> error =
>>>>>> hostpw decryption failed
>>>>>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.188 GMT Client 1: Reply to client started:
>>>>>> 'ERROR Netldi 'gs64ldi' on host 'Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2.local' reports the request 'gemnetobject' failed: '
>>>>>> --- 12/01/25 18:23:41.189 GMT Client 1: Disposed. elapsed time = 3ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks !
>>>>>> Tariq
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 at 18:06, James Foster <Smalltalk at jgfoster.net <mailto:Smalltalk at jgfoster.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear Tariq,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, that covered the easy possible problems. From there, I would be inclined to restart the NetLDI process in debug mode (add `-d` to the command line), then look at the NetLDI log file to see if it received a connection request and whether it has any details. Next, I would try `topaz -r` to see if you can connect that way (`set user DataCurator pass swordfish gems gs64stone gemn gemnetobject` followed by `login`).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize that these suggestions are a bit vague. I’m about to board a plane so can’t same much more now. At this point I should probably leave it to someone with more expertise in Jadeite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2025, at 10:46 AM, Tariq Hamid <tariq at hamid.com <mailto:tariq at hamid.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, Jadeite Pharo is running on the same host as Gemstone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As requested:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> % gslist -cvl
>>>>>>>> Status Version Owner Pid Port Started Type Name
>>>>>>>> ------- --------- --------- -------- ----- ------------ ------ ----
>>>>>>>> OK 3.7.4.3 tariq 977 50377 Nov 26 13:50 Netldi gs64ldi
>>>>>>>> OK 3.7.4.3 tariq 831 51054 Nov 26 13:44 Stone gs64stone
>>>>>>>> OK 3.7.4.3 tariq 832 51052 Nov 26 13:44 cache gs64stone~e65467ac4c061631
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> % tail /etc/services
>>>>>>>> # 48130-48555 Unassigned
>>>>>>>> com-bardac-dw 48556/udp # com-bardac-dw
>>>>>>>> com-bardac-dw 48556/tcp # com-bardac-dw
>>>>>>>> # Nicholas J Howes <nick at ghostwood.org <mailto:nick at ghostwood.org>>
>>>>>>>> # 48557-49150 Unassigned
>>>>>>>> # 49151 IANA Reserved
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gs64ldi 50377/tcp #GemStone/S 64 Bit 3.7.4.3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>>>> Tariq
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 at 16:52, James Foster <Smalltalk at jgfoster.net <mailto:Smalltalk at jgfoster.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What do you get from `gslist -cvl`? Is `gs64ldi` in your `/etc/services` file? Is Jadeite on the same host?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2025, at 9:41 AM, Tariq Hamid via Glass <glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com <mailto:glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Gemstoners
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My Jadeite does not connect.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gemstone is running locally on my MacBook:
>>>>>>>>>> % gslist
>>>>>>>>>> Status Version Owner Started Type Name
>>>>>>>>>> ------- --------- --------- ------------ ------ ----
>>>>>>>>>> exists 3.7.4.3 tariq Nov 26 13:50 Netldi gs64ldi
>>>>>>>>>> exists 3.7.4.3 tariq Nov 26 13:44 Stone gs64stone
>>>>>>>>>> exists 3.7.4.3 tariq Nov 26 13:44 cache gs64stone~e65467ac4c061631
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have unzipped the client libraries:
>>>>>>>>>> % pwd
>>>>>>>>>> /Users/tariq/gemstone/src/clientLibs/3.7.4.3/64bit <http://3.7.4.3/64bit>
>>>>>>>>>> % ls
>>>>>>>>>> libgbjts320.dylib libgcits-3.7.4.3-64.dylib libssl-3.7.4.3-64.dylib
>>>>>>>>>> libgcirpc-3.7.4.3-64.dylib libkrb5-3.7.4.3-64.dylib
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <image.png>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I click connect:
>>>>>>>>>> <image.png>
>>>>>>>>>> error contacting GemService, ssl call to netldi failed, ; Netldi 'gs64ldi' on host 'Tariqs-MacBook-Pro-2.local' reports the request 'gemnetobject' failed:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Muchas Gracias Amigos
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
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