[Glass] Basic questions regarding GemBuilder for Smalltalk, GemTools, and tODE
Joachim Tuchel
jtuchel at objektfabrik.de
Mon Sep 30 13:56:38 PDT 2013
Mariano,
I guess you just nailed down a list of questions that many others have
about Gemstone/S and GLASS. While I think I know some of the answers to
your questions, I hope for someone with more experience to answer them.
Some of the questions are also open for me ;-)
So thanks for bringing these up and thanks in advance for qualified
answers ;-)
Joachim
Am 30.09.13 22:48, schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck:
> Hi guys,
>
> I am evaluating GemStone for a client and I want to give it a try. I
> have a very high level idea of GemStone but I never use it for real.
> The application I may need to run in GemStone is a Seaside app 3.0 +
> Magritte3.
>
> Something that confuses me a lot if all these pieces that seem somehow
> related: GemBuilder for Smalltalk, GemTools, and tODE. And I have a
> few questions related to these. Thanks in advance for any help you can
> give me.
>
> From what I understand, I do need a kind of "GemBuilder for Smalltalk"
> in order to connect my client Smalltalk (Pharo in my case) to
> GemStone. But there isn't any GemBuilder for Pharo (only VW and VA). I
> also thought part of GemBuilder was to map certain kernel classes of
> the client language to GemStone, to retrieve objects from GemStone
> into my smalltalk client vm..etc.
>
> So..I guess GemTools is a subset of an equivalent "GemBuilder for
> Pharo"? What is its relation to the GemBuilder?
> From what I understand, GemTools offers me some tools to connect to a
> GemStone server, load code, execute some code on the server, etc etc
> etc. I think I can do more or less the same with Topaz as well. That
> means that GemBuilder is optional and I could use Topaz only. If I use
> Topaz directly, it means that I don't need any GemBuilder at all for
> Pharo? If true, how then it happens that "mapping of certain kernel
> classes" that I read somewhere? in other word, why would I not need a
> GemBuilder for Pharo but do need it for VW and VA? Just because there
> is no UI and all we have is seaside running? And if I run Seaside in
> VW then I don't need GemBuilder for VW?
>
> If I don't need GemBuilder at all, how can I know which
> classes/methods of Pharo can I use and which ones I cannot?
>
> I noticed the GemTools is based on a very very old Pharo image. I
> guess this is not a very big problem because I would use that image
> only to load my code into GemStone and maybe for other small issues.
> Still, I will continue developing my app in Pharo 2.0 and I will keep
> having my ConfigurationOfXXX with the proper load for GemStone. Right?
>
> Anyway...now how is tODE related to GemTools? What does tODE help me
> regarding GemStone? Can I use it already or should I still with
> GemTools/Topaz for the moment? I searched in Gemtalk Systems and I
> found nothing.
>
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> --
> Mariano
> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
>
>
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