[Glass] openssl packaged with GS/64

[Norm Green via Glass]

Hi Paul,

We include $GEMSTONE/bin/openssl only for convenience. Gemstone
doesn't use it so perhaps we should remove it. In any case, I'm not
sure that this openssl binary loads the libs in $GEMSTONE/lib. It
probably loads whatever is in your path, which brings me to my next
point.  Are you saying the installer adds $GEMSTONE/lib to the path?
I don't think it should be if it is.  Only $GEMSTONE/bin should be in
the path.  If it is not in the path, then we are not overriding the
system SSL libs.

Norm

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> On Jul 8, 2015, at 13:15, Paul DeBruicker via Glass <glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
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> Hi Norm,
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>> Hi Paul,
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>>> On 7/8/2015 12:11 PM, Paul DeBruicker via Glass wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> I noticed that 3.2.7 is shipping with an updated openssl (1.0.2b) and
>>> that openssl is prepping to release a new version Thursday
>>> (https://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2015-July/000037.html)
>>> which patches a serious vulnerability.
>>>
>>> It is my understanding that because of how the GemStone install scripts
>>> set the PATH the version of openssl that ships with GS becomes the de
>>> facto version of openssl in use on the system its installed on.  Unless
>>> you manually delete the version of openssl that ships with GS.  Is that
>>> correct?
>> Yes that is correct.  GemStone always explicitly loads the SSL libraries
>> from $GEMSTONE/lib (64 bit or $GEMSTONE/lib32 (32 bit).
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> My concern is not so much which one GemStone uses but that you override the
> version of the binary used by the entire rest of the system.  Right now a
> user installing GemStone 3.2.6 gets openssl 1.0.2a for their entire system.
> Not just the GemStone parts.   If, prior to installing GemStone, they were
> using/following the security releases for their OS, would be 1.0.2.c.
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> So the GemStone install scripts, when they set the PATH variable, are
> overriding what the OS provides to offer a version for the whole computer
> with unpatched, known vulnerabilities.
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> Would it be possible to instead have the scripts test for the presence of
> openssl on the server before installing the shipped version in
> $GEMSTONE/bin?
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> In that way the patched versions of openssl would be available for use
> independently of the GS version.
>
> check it on a computer with GemStone installed by running:
>
> which openssl
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> to see which openssl binary is being used and then copying that path and
> running
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> /my/path/to/openssl version
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> to see what version of the binary is being used by things like apache and
> nginx, etc.
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> That seems like dangerous and bad behavior on the part of your installer.
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>>> If that is correct, is there a better way to do this so that users of GS
>>> don't have to delete the version of openssl you ship with the product?
>> You are free to compile a newer/different version of the SSL libs and
>> replace the ones in $GEMSTONE.  We also sometimes will do this for you
>> and release just the SSL libs.  This is why we designed our usage of SSL
>> the way we did.  It is obviously impossible to synchronize our product
>> releases with OpenSSL releases.
>>
>> We always merge the latest versions of SSL into our source code
>> repository as soon as SSL is released.  How/when we will formally
>> release this SSL release is still TBD.
>>> How do others handle this?
>> Good question for the community.  I'm not sure.
>>
>> -Norm
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Paul
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