[Glass] #1 Status of appliance #2 Will you be at ESUG 2015 in Italy?

[James Foster via Glass]

Hi Frank,

Yes, GemTalk will be represented at ESUG in Italy (let me know your schedule and we can arrange some time to visit about technical and business issues). So I can get a better idea of your situation, what platform(s) do you have available. If you have a Mac available, then one approach is the GemStone.app that takes care of all the install and configuration steps (see https://programminggems.wordpress.com/2013/09/25/gemstone-on-the-macintosh/). 

If you want a virtual machine, are you running it on a Mac, Windows, or a Linux system? Do you have access to a Mac and/or Windows machine?

I understand that you want to get to know GemStone (“a sophisticated and complex system”) without having to learn much about its installation and administration. What things would you like to learn? Do you want a traditional GUI IDE or would you be willing to learn the built-in command-line interface?

James


> On May 19, 2015, at 8:13 PM, FrankB via Glass <glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello folks at GemStone,
> 
> I am bringing this up again for two reasons:
> 
> 1) I am still very seriously interested in getting to know GemStone ideally
> during June 2015 (reason see #2). I have never worked with Pharo and I am
> neither a Linux expert (despite having worked with Xenix/Unix since 1986!)
> nor an expert on mastering system level specialties.
> 
> Additionally, I recently talked to a very experienced Smalltalk developer
> who is much more experienced in these system things than I am and he said
> that when trying to install GemStone he encountered various problems (there
> was no reason to discuss of what nature) so that he gave up after a few
> days. I shall not go through such a nightmare. (And please DO NOT tell me
> that this was simple for you. If it really was then why don't you prove it
> by making a ready-to-go VM appliance in a couple of minutes!?)
> 
> I think that for such a sophisticated and complex system like GemStone it
> should be kind of natural to enable interested new users to play with it
> without having to go through a long and painful installation procedure.
> 
> To be honest: This enduring absence of a test appliance is not suitable to
> build-up my confidence!
> 
> 2) Question to the GemStone folks: Will you be at ESUG in Italy this year?
> 
> I am considering to attend primarily to meet you and some other people from
> overseas for some "strategic discussions". 
> 
> But since only politicians and journalists are allowed to talk about
> subjects that they haven't got the faintest clue of, I would very much
> prefer to have played with GemStone before meeting you.
> 
> Hoping that one of the GemStone folks will now "easily and quickly" generate
> a VM appliance ready to play with (= please with Pharo included and
> interfaced).
> 
> Do I have to mention that my projects that I am considering to use GemStone
> for not only have the potential but a very good likeliness to by far exceed
> the limits of your free and low-end versions?!
> 
> Best regards
> FrankB
> 
> 
> 
> 
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