[Glass] Gemstone 3.6.0 is now working with GsDevKit (in a ", " locale oriented environment)

[Robert Calco]

Thanks, Dale!

The Rowan ecosystem sounds interesting. What pain points of
Metacello/Monticello does it address?

Dolphin UX is great but I wish it ran 64 bit and on GTK or wxWidgets and
was cross platform. Alas, we want it all.

Pharo UX is OK but I look forward to something transcending Morphic. Bloc,
whatever. Otherwise I quite enjoy the Pharo developer experience. So both
Jadeite and Sparkle sound great, too.

A web based dev environment seems all the rage, and is architecturally
interesting, but I don't especially enjoy web coding unless it's on the
reactive paradigm (React.js, Elm (I love Elm), ClojureScript). I don't see
AmberJS taking off even among Smalltalkers, for some reason.

It may make more sense for me to stick with Jade for now but otherwise get
involved in Rowan (and possibly Jadeite) and contribute to making Pharo UX
nicer. If nothing else I may fully understand Rowan by the time it goes
"prime time." I'm really not psyched going retro all the way back to Pharo
3 on 32 bit.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 12:12 PM Dale Henrichs via Glass <
glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com> wrote:

> Hello Robert,
>
> The documentation is a bit old, but other than the versions of GemStone,
> the functionality hasn't change much. Unfortunately I am not a good writer,
> so the documentation does suffer. If you (oar anyone else) has a gift for
> writing I would welcome contributions:)
>
> The basic shell commands for manipulating stones are:
>
>    - createStone
>    - stopStone
>    - startStone
>    - deleteStone
>    - startTopaz
>    - newExtent
>    - startNetldi
>    - stopNetldi
>
> Each of the scripts has help (-h option) that describes the script in more
> detail. The basic theory of operation is that each stone is named, so you
> can easily manage multiple stones and multiple versions of GemStone.
>
> When you create a stone a directory $GS_HOME/server/stones/<stone-name> is
> created and this directory is where all of the files associated with the
> stone are located (logs, extents. tranlogs, symbolic link to product tree,
> etc.).  All of the above commands take a <stone-name> as an argument ... If
> you are familiar with GemStone every GemStone command requires the
> $GEMSTONE env variable to be defined and in GsDevKit_home, $GEMSTONE is
> defined in the scripts themselves using the <stone-name> as a lookup key.
> It is easy to manage multiple stones in the same shell window without
> worrying about constantly setting your $GEMSTONE env var.
>
> GsDevKit_home was created so that it would be easier to work with
> GLASS/GsDevKit. GLASS/GsDefKit is basically a collection of several github
> based projects that provides a pharo-compatibility layer for running
> Seaside as well as other open source projects that have been ported from
> Pharo to GLASS/GsDevKit.
>
> tODE was originally created as a full-featured development for
> GLASS/GsDevKit, but whether or not you use tODE for development (many if
> not most of the GsDevKit_home users develop in Pharo and deploy in
> GemStone), tODE provides support for loading and managing projects and
> should be included when you are creating stones/projects in GsDevKit_home.
>
> Over the last several years we have been working on Rowan (replacement for
> Metacello/Monticello), Jadeite (Rowan-based dev GUI based on Dolphin and
> forked from Jade) and Sparkle (Rowan-based dev GUI based on Pharo) ... when
> the Rowan eco-system is ready for prime-time, the github-based projects
> will be converted to Rowan and tODE will no longer be a "required"
> component of GsDevKit_home.
>
> Hopefully, this will give you a bit more information and feel free to ask
> more questions.
>
> Dale
> On 2/4/21 5:53 PM, Robert Calco via Glass wrote:
>
> So I have a stone running GemStone 3.6.0 (limited edition) and I'd like to
> configure it to enable development using GsDevKit_home. The documentation
> seems a bit dated and I'm curious how I can get started?
>
> My only experience developing against GS so far is using Jade on Windows,
> but I'm interested to explore GsDevKit_home as an alternative. Any pointers
> to understanding how to use it and how it works greatly appreciated. I am
> familiar with Pharo 8, but versions earlier than 7 I have not used.
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:02 AM Marten Feldtmann via Glass <
> glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
>
>> That's good news. Thanks to Dale for his work !
>>
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