[Glass] tODE

Dale Henrichs via Glass glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com
Mon Sep 8 13:50:06 PDT 2014

Just to be clear, the 32-bit requirement is based on using the 32-bit pharo
vm. As soon as there is a 64-bit pharo vm, we should be able to use the 64
bit gci libraries and remove the dependence upon 32 bit libraries ...

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Dale Henrichs <
dale.henrichs at gemtalksystems.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:05 PM, itlists at schrievkrom.de via Glass <
> glass at lists.gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
>> Am 08.09.2014 um 20:37 schrieb Dale Henrichs:
>> >
>> > Soooo, I think that at the end of the day libpam needs to be installed
>> > on your system along with possibly other libraries ... I am getting a
>> > clean 12.04 Ubuntu vm built that I can update the install scripts to
>> > install the necessary 32 bit and 64 bit libraries for GemStone ...
>> Ouch, that's a pretty bad base ... we had VASmalltalk servers already
>> running under 12.04LTS and we had to use the 32bit subsystem - our
>> administrators were not that happy to install the 32bit subsystem but
>> instead wished, that the developers (we) move towards 64bit apps. Bok,
>> that can be changed.
>> But I assume, that I do not need to install tOde under Linux - but use
>> it from a Windows clients. Therefore perhaps the script should be
>> divided into two parts:
>> * installation of gemstone
>> * (optional) installation of tODE.
>> Good point and that's absolutely correct, the 32 bit libraries are only
> required for tODE and I do want to make it easy for the optional
> installation of tODE ...
> Over the month or so that GsDevKit has been out, I have seen several
> places where I need to restructure things, so I am glad that I am getting
> additional independent feedback (some has come via private mail - but I
> prefer public mail so that others can benefit from the conversation:)
> before I make another pass through GsDevKit ...
> At the end of the day, I do anticipate that tODE will "always" be
> installed on the server ... many of the GsDevKit scripts themselves
> leverage tODE and I have also been writing server-side scripts in Pharo
> (non-tODE) so that I and anyone else writing scripts could avoid having to
> use bash ...
> Hmmm, I do expect that the bash scripts will be able to leverage the
> existence of pharo on the server and therefore scripts that are run on the
> server will need to have the 32 bit libraries installed .... so at the end
> of the day I would think that GsDevKit will want to be able to expect that
> a headless pharo client can be run ...
> I hate to think that I will have to write the cross-platform scripts in
> something other than Smalltalk ... bash is such a horrible programming
> environment ...
> Is the requirement for 32 bit libraries a deal breaker and if so, how many
> folks can't use gSdevKit if it requires 32 bit libraries?
> Dale
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